Dáil debates

Wednesday, 5 November 2014

Other Questions

Crowd-Funding Initiatives

10:25 am

Photo of Dara CallearyDara Calleary (Mayo, Fianna Fail)
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7. To ask the Minister for Finance his views on the tax treatment of crowd-funding initiatives; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [41758/14]

Photo of Dara CallearyDara Calleary (Mayo, Fianna Fail)
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The National Policy Statement on Entrepreneurship in Ireland indicated that more diverse sources of finance are needed for start-up companies. It indicated there is considerable potential in crowd-funding. I want to ascertain from the Minister what work is under way in his Department to support and mine that potential.

Photo of Michael NoonanMichael Noonan (Limerick City, Fine Gael)
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Crowd-funding is still in its early stages of development. This type of funding has the potential to increase entrepreneurship as it bridges a financing gap for many micro-enterprises and fosters a more engaged investor community whose expertise can help micro-enterprises. Delivering on action No. 217 of the Action Plan for Jobs 2014, officials in my Department are working with stakeholders involved in SME finance on a number of non-bank financing initiatives, of which crowd-funding is one, so that the optimum mix of SME finance products can be established as soon as possible. The SME State bodies group, which is chaired by my Department, hosted an SME policy day and identified crowd funding as an area that is likely to help Irish SMEs in the coming years. My officials recently facilitated meetings between the European Investment Bank and two crowd-funding organisations.

In terms of supporting such alternative financing mechanisms as crowd-funding through tax incentives, it must be borne in mind that value for money and a strong justification for State intervention are key considerations. As crowd-funding is relatively new and is only currently establishing a presence in Ireland, I am inclined to consider the various available options prior to intervening with taxpayers' money in an effort to boost take-up. Private sector initiatives have their place and do not necessarily require tax reliefs in order to foster participation. The Deputy will be aware that the employment and investment incentive already provides tax relief for investments of medium-term risk capital in qualifying SMEs.

Photo of Dara CallearyDara Calleary (Mayo, Fianna Fail)
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I acknowledge the progress made. The justification for State intervention is job creation. Some private companies can point to just under 1,000 new jobs created in the past two years. I acknowledge the significant progress made by Microfinance Ireland over the past four months in terms of reforming and sharpening up its role. What timeframe has the Minister given to his own Department to conclude these negotiations and come forward with a proposal which might hit the marketplace? Might we see some sort of Government-endorsed package around crowd financing to assist the growth of potential projects?

Photo of Michael NoonanMichael Noonan (Limerick City, Fine Gael)
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As the Deputy knows, crowd-funding is the practice of funding a project or venue by raising small amounts of money from a large number of people, typically via the Internet. Crowd-funding campaigns are generally funded by the general public rather than by traditional investors.

Section 6.2 of the 2014 report of the entrepreneurship forum discusses crowd-funding and recommends that no action be taken by the Government until the industry establishes itself in Ireland and has had time to grow and develop. Action No. 217 of the Action Plan for Jobs 2014 commits to developing proposals to support the development of alternatives to bank financing within Ireland. My officials are working with stakeholders involved in SME finance on a number of non-bank financing initiatives, of which crowd-funding is one. Our policy position so far is that it is at a very early stage and I am not disposed to encourage it at this time by providing it with a tax break. However, it is an issue we will keep under review. We have tax breaks to encourage investment in other areas.

10:35 am

Photo of Dara CallearyDara Calleary (Mayo, Fianna Fail)
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The tax breaks from the employment and investment incentive scheme, EIIS, and the other schemes are for people with larger incomes, who have spare capacity to invest in such schemes. As the Minister said, crowd-funding tends to attract smaller investors and people with smaller savings. They are entitled to a fair share of any tax incentives on offer. I welcome the progress made but I encourage the Minister to move forward as quickly as possible on this rapidly growing market. There is no reason this country should not be at the forefront.

Photo of Michael NoonanMichael Noonan (Limerick City, Fine Gael)
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We might learn from the practice in the United Kingdom. In 2013, the UK Government commenced lending to small businesses through a peer-to-peer lending platform called Funding Circle. An initial amount of £20 million was provided through its British business bank and this has subsequently been increased to £40 million. These funds will be used to provide the final 10% of any loan to a borrower. The remaining 90% of funds must be raised through private investors.

While I will not cite peer-to-peer lending specifically, the Government has a range of mechanisms in place to provide alternative sources of finance to SMEs in Ireland, such as those mentioned by the Deputy - the microfinance loan scheme, the employment and investment incentive scheme, the start-up refunds for entrepreneurs, SURE, programme, and the Strategic Banking Corporation of Ireland. Crowd-funding is something that is gaining traction in other jurisdictions, and it is worth looking at what is happening in the United Kingdom. However, while we are keeping up with what is happening, I do not have an initiative to propose yet. The Deputy may be correct in his analysis, but this is something I will keep under review.