Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Barry Cowen.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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A Cheann Comhairle, a number of attempts have been made to resolve this issue. Unfortunately, you have not taken them on board.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Sorry, Deputy, resume your seat. You are out of order.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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A Cheann Comhairle, we have to raise this issue.

A Deputy:

There is a forum for that. It is called the Committee on Procedure and Privileges.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Sorry, I am on my feet. Please resume your seat while I am on my feet.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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Why?

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I had the pleasure of speaking with Deputy Maureen O'Sullivan. She came to my office and I explained everything to her in detail. In addition, I asked the Clerk of the Dáil to issue a letter to your Whip, which he did, outlining the Standing Orders and explaining everything. There is no discretion for me in respect of this matter. Any Member who is not a member of a party or a group is entitled to apply to be a member of a technical group. I do not have any discretion in that regard. The only thing-----

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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That is not what you said last year.

Catherine Byrne (Dublin South Central, Fine Gael)
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Let the Ceann Comhairle finish.

Joe Carey (Clare, Fine Gael)
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Have a little respect.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Do not shout me down. The only thing they have to do is formally notify me. The two Deputies in question have formally notified me. That is it. I cannot do any more than that. It is now a matter to be resolved by others. I ask that in the interests of parliamentary democracy Members now allow the business of the Dáil to proceed.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Resume your seat and let us get on with the business of the day. I again call Deputy Barry Cowen.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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A Cheann Comhairle, we have tried over the last three and a half years in the interests of democracy to resolve these issues in regard to the organisation of the Technical Group.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Sorry, I cannot resolve anything.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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This has been refused by yourself on numerous occasions. It has been refused by the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission and-----

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Committee on Procedure and Privileges is the forum in which to try to resolve these difficulties. They cannot be resolved on the floor of the House.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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-----the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. We have been brought to this point because you have refused-----

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy Pringle, I would ask you please to respect the Chair and-----

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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-----at all points to actually engage with the Technical Group in relation to resolving these issues. You have not treated the Technical Group in a fair manner when dealing with these issues.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I again ask Deputy Pringle to resume his seat.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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We are not going to resume our seats in relation to this matter.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy, I am asking you again to resume your seat.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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I am not going to resume my seat. You have had ample opportunity to resolve these issues.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I must ask the Deputy to leave the House.

Clare Daly (Dublin North, United Left)
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We have sought legal opinion on this matter.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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We have attempted on numerous occasions, including today, to resolve these issues.