Dáil debates

Wednesday, 30 January 2013

10:00 am

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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It is proposed to take No. 1, Health Service Executive (Governance) Bill 2012 Seanad - Second Stage. Private Members’ business shall be No. 87, motion re An Garda Síochána (resumed), to be taken at 9.30 p.m. and conclude after 90 minutes, if not previously concluded.

Photo of Michael KittMichael Kitt (Galway East, Fianna Fail)
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There are no proposals to be put to the House.

Photo of Charlie McConalogueCharlie McConalogue (Donegal North East, Fianna Fail)
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The Minister for Education and Skills, Deputy Ruairí Quinn, and the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, Deputy Frances Fitzgerald, published an anti-bullying strategy yesterday which focuses on the issue of homophobic bullying. At the same time as the strategy is being published a person could lose his or her job in a religious-run school or hospital because of his or her sexual orientation. The programme for Government committed to amending section 37 of the Employment Equality Act 1998. When will this be done? My colleague in the Seanad, Senator Averil Power, introduced a Bill over a year ago which was not accepted by the Government. It is hypocritical to introduce guidelines to deal with the issue of homophobic bullying when the Government is not taking action which is within its power to amend employment legislation. When is it intended to do so and to do so promptly?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I do not have a date for publication of that legislation to amend section 37 of the Employment Equality Act 1998. The output and throughput of legislation in the House have been extensive. Much of that legislation has been introduced to meet a requirement because the country is in a programme which has a timeline and is governed by the troika memorandum of understanding. I discussed yesterday with Deputies the extensive list of legislation to be brought before the House in the context of how we draft and prepare legislation. It is suggested we should perhaps focus on a set number of Bills in any one session, the ones we wish to prioritise during the year. We may need to begin dealing earlier with the preparation of legislation at departmental level and taking advice from the Attorney General. I will advise the Deputy of the current stage of preparations to deal with the particular amendment mentioned.

Photo of Pearse DohertyPearse Doherty (Donegal South West, Sinn Fein)
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The Taoiseach referred to the troika. Does the Government plan to bring forward legislation to amend the Land and Conveyancing Law Reform Act 2009 to remove the legal impediment to repossessions based on the troika's advice to it? Will such legislation contain provisions to protect homeowners against repossession?

In the past 24 hours we have been subjected to a number of well known and well regarded economists speaking on RTE radio and television. All three stated it was unlikely that the State would achieve a deal on the promissory note. I hope they will be proved wrong and that we will have a sustainable and substantial deal. I ask the Taoiseach to facilitate statements on the ECB's rejection of the preferred option. This is against the background of a technical paper which has taken 18 months to prepare and the first formal proposal has been rejected by the ECB. The amount of money involved is substantial and significant and will have an impact on every person. The House should not be kept in the dark any longer on the Government's strategy in the talks.

Photo of Michael KittMichael Kitt (Galway East, Fianna Fail)
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The Deputy will be aware that the holding of debates is a matter for the Whips.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The Bill to amend the Land and Conveyancing Law Reform Act is expected this session.

As I advised the House yesterday, the discussions and negotiations with the European Central Bank are ongoing; they have not been concluded. We expect the matter to be brought to a conclusion before the end of March, the next payment date.

10:10 am

Photo of Richard Boyd BarrettRichard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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In the past week, the economist Peter Bacon has joined the chorus of voices who are, in polite language, saying the Government's plan to sell the harvesting rights to Coillte represents economic and financial madness. The plan is to give away a vital resource that could generate many jobs and considerable revenue for the State. It could be given away for a song. Incredibly, at a meeting of the Joint Committee on Finance and Public Expenditure last week, NTMA representatives could not tell me about their valuation of Coillte lands. They said they would revert to us but they still have not done so. There are rumours that they are grossly undervaluing the harvesting rights associated with Coillte lands.

Photo of Michael KittMichael Kitt (Galway East, Fianna Fail)
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Is this on promised legislation?

Photo of Richard Boyd BarrettRichard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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Will the forestry Bill come before this House before the Taoiseach concludes any deal to sell off our forestry, or will he allow for some debate in this House on the merits, or otherwise, of the sale of our national forestry to, say, Swiss wealth asset managers or the Chinese Government?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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We have made it clear that, in the Government decision on this matter, it is the timber and not the land that is being sold.

Photo of Richard Boyd BarrettRichard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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We all know that.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The land is retained in State ownership for the people. The forestry Bill is expected in the coming weeks. The Deputy will have ample time to ventilate his views on this. The gentleman to whom the Deputy referred, Mr. Bacon, has been involved in producing reports for the country over the years and the results have not always been as he expected.

Photo of Richard Boyd BarrettRichard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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There is no doubt about the madness of giving away our trees.

Photo of Michael KittMichael Kitt (Galway East, Fianna Fail)
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Order, please.

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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I want to ask the Taoiseach about a matter arising in my county which is relevant to the legislation to amend the Public Service Management (Recruitment and Appointments) Act 2004. Twenty-four clerical staff in the DVO are at their wits' end over their treatment and the threats that their office will be closed down, resulting in their transfer "to hell or to Connacht", as used to be said in the time of Cromwell. With regard to the next Croke Park agreement or Croke Park nua, will the service that has been given by these staff be respected? Will the staff just be banished to Van Diemen's Land? These public officials expect better than this.

Photo of Michael KittMichael Kitt (Galway East, Fianna Fail)
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That could be a matter for a parliamentary question.

Photo of Mattie McGrathMattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent)
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I am asking when the Public Service Management (Recruitment and Appointments) Act 2004 will be amended.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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This session.

Photo of Ciara ConwayCiara Conway (Waterford, Labour)
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When will the family leave Bill be before the House given that recent reports have shown that women are now the highest earners? It is time that we considered introducing paternity leave and, more important, maternity leave for the Members of this House.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The family leave Bill is expected to be published this session.

Photo of Michael Healy-RaeMichael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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My question is in recognition of the excellent work being carried out under the rural transport programme throughout the country and its excellent value last year, at a cost of €10 million. There was a threat to this vital service in the past. I thank the Government for saving rural transport. I want an assurance that, under the road transport legislation, the rural transport network that has been built up will be retained. It is necessary for elderly people, in particular, who want to go to mass, shops or the doctor, for example. It is their link with their local communities.

Let me refer to the shocking announcement that €24 million in legal and consultancy fees was incurred by the NTMA and the Department of Finance. Surely these bodies should have enough internal advisers. Could there be an assurance included in the National Treasury Management Agency (amendment) Bill that we can cut out the hiring of external expertise? Surely the Departments have enough internal expertise and suitably qualified staff such that they would not have to spend enormous sums, at the taxpayers' expense, on consultancy and legal fees.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I thank the Deputy. The rural transport network is an important element of the fabric of society. I was going to say that the Deputy's belief that the network was in danger might have been why somebody in his county wanted permits for people who might not use the road transport network to allow them to get home.

Photo of Michael Healy-RaeMichael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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That is a different issue.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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It would have an impact on road safety and lives. I assure the Deputy that this is an important matter. The rural transport network has proven to be of great social benefit to many who would otherwise not be able to get to their local town, for example.

We are conscious of the hiring of advisers by Departments. In the case the Deputy mentioned, the fees were for specialist legal advice that would not be available inside a Department. I assure the Deputy that, in so far as the Government is concerned, it tries to use the resources of all Departments to the greatest extent possible. It is only in cases where that expertise is not available that consideration is given to the hiring of specialist legal advisers.

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry South, Fine Gael)
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The Taoiseach may be aware of the 19 recommendations that the Law Reform Commission has made regarding people who are missing and the provision of legal clarity to the families affected. Will the recommendations be considered by the Government in the context of forthcoming legislation? The implementation of the recommendations would give clarity to the families of the missing. It could allow them to move on with their lives, gain access to the finances of the missing and allow for clarification on wills and other legal matters.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I am aware that the report was published this morning and that it contains the recommendations to which the Deputy refers. The matter will be considered by the Government in due course. We will publish our decisions following consideration of the report.

Photo of Michael ColreavyMichael Colreavy (Sligo-North Leitrim, Sinn Fein)
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I understand that the Government is currently introducing regulations to ensure that people with specified long-term illnesses will have free general practitioner care. Could the list of designated illnesses be expanded to include lifelong and often terminal illnesses that are currently excluded from the list?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I invite the Deputy to send a list of the ailments he has in mind to the Minister of State at the Department of Health, Deputy Alex White, who is now dealing with this matter. He is preparing the necessary legislation and I am sure he is willing to receive the information from the Deputy.

Photo of Michelle MulherinMichelle Mulherin (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Is the Government, including the Minister for Finance, prepared to insert in the forthcoming finance Bill a provision that would accommodate first-time buyers who have been precluded from availing of enhanced mortgage interest relief, the deadline pertaining to which was 31 December last? The holiday arrangements of the banks basically precluded them from issuing loan cheques after mid-December, resulting in a two-week period, approximately, in which the first-time buyers were precluded from drawing down their loan checks in time to avail of the relief. I understand a significant number of people are affected. They should be accommodated because what has occurred has happened through no fault of their own.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The matter can be considered. The Minister would like to be fair to everybody. It may well be that there could be legal implications associated with the setting of the date. The Minister will consider the question raised during the preparation of the finance Bill.

10:20 am

Photo of Finian McGrathFinian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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With regard to the maritime conventions Bill and on the importance of fishing and tourism in the Howth area, does the Taoiseach share my concern about the proposal that people should pay for parking in the Howth pier area which could potentially damage the fishing and tourism industries in the area? Will he raise the issue with the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Deputy Simon Coveney, because it is a very serious one for the people of Howth, given the 300 jobs provided along the pier? I urge the Taoiseach to intervene in this urgent matter.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Two days in a row - the Deputy is doing well. The Government is seriously interested in expanding tourism facilities and tourist numbers because of the industry's economic potential. Without knowing all of the details, I suggest the Deputy should raise the matter with the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine in the form of a Topical Issue, provided that the Ceann Comhairle gives him the authorisation to do so. The Government does not want to reduce the capacity of the tourism industry in any way.

Photo of Michael KittMichael Kitt (Galway East, Fianna Fail)
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In accordance with the order of the Dáil of yesterday, the sitting is being suspended until 4 p.m.

Sitting suspended at 10.20 a.m. and resumed at 4 p.m.