Dáil debates

Tuesday, 25 October 2011

4:00 pm

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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It is proposed to take No. 4, Central Bank (Supervision and Enforcement) Bill 2011 - Order for Second Stage and Second Stage; No. 5, Health (Provision of General Practitioner Services) Bill 2011 - Order for Second Stage and Second Stage; and No. 14, statements on the report by the interdepartmental working group on mortgage arrears (resumed) to be taken no later than 9 p.m. and the order shall not resume thereafter. It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. tonight and shall adjourn not later than 10 p.m. Private Members' business shall be No. 27, a motion on health services delivery.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There is one proposal to be put to the House. Is the proposal that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. tonight agreed to? Agreed.

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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I wish to ask about forthcoming legislation which relates to a commitment to bring legislation before the House on another amendment to the Constitution, the children's referendum Bill. Will the Taoiseach agree that, in future, any such referenda will not take place in the context of a presidential, local or general election? Does he agree that a referendum should be separate from all of those in the future, given the dissatisfaction and unhappiness that exists with the debate on the current referenda? When eight former Attorneys General of different backgrounds -----

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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That is not in order on the Order of Business.

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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-----have come forward to speak so strongly, they should not be dismissed as speaking nonsense.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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That is a matter for a parliamentary question.

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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This is something we should reflect on in the House as we look at the constitutional conventions and the children's Bill.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is there any matter of a children's debate or legislation?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I have noted the-----

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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I asked for a timetable for the children's referendum Bill.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I cannot give the Deputy a date for the children's referendum Bill until such time as the children's advocacy groups, the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs and the Attorney General are happy that a wording that is acceptable can be put into a Bill to be brought forward here. I hope that at the appropriate time in the new year, we can have a referendum on this. In response to the specific question, it is important to have an understanding of the balance between the interest in the referendums and adequate time to have them properly debated. On the question of whether they should be run in conjunction with any election, I do not propose to have an election next year and, in the context of a general election or presidential election, it will not arise.

Photo of Timmy DooleyTimmy Dooley (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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The Taoiseach will not be in a hurry to have a presidential election again.

Photo of Paul KehoePaul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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At least we have a candidate.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I take the point the Deputy is making. What Deputy Martin is saying is that there should be a specific run-in and a discussion about any referendum that will take place. We will give consideration to that.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy McDonald.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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Who gave Seán the envelope?

Photo of Pat RabbittePat Rabbitte (Dublin South West, Labour)
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Finian will support the children.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputies should show some respect to Deputy Mary Lou McDonald, who is on her feet.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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I saw the Fianna Fáil posters in Dublin West.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I will not ask Deputy Buttimer again. This happens every single day. I ask him to obey the Chair. There is a Deputy on her feet and he should show some respect.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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I am sorry.

Photo of Mary Lou McDonaldMary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein)
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I thank the Ceann Comhairle for defending my honour against Deputy Buttimer, not for the first time.

I note that, according to this week's schedule, the Taoiseach will hear statements on the European Council meeting tomorrow and will take questions on that. What arrangements have been made for a report to the Dáil after the summit? Will there be a question and answer facility when he comes back? An mbeidh am chomh-maith le díospóireacht a bheith againn maidir lenár maoin a bhéas á bhronnadh ag an Rialtas ar Bhanc Anglo Irish? Will the Taoiseach allow a debate on Government plans to hand over €700 million-----

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy McDonald is straying and has really gone off the rails.

Photo of Mary Lou McDonaldMary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein)
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-----on 2 November to unguaranteed bondholders-----

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy McDonald was going grand until that.

Photo of Mary Lou McDonaldMary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein)
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-----rising to a total of €2 billion next January?

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy McDonald went a little bit astray but the first question is all right.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The Ceann Comhairle does not have to defend Deputy McDonald's honour on the latter part of the question. The proposition is to have a report on Sunday's meeting tomorrow morning and also to look forward to tomorrow evening's meeting tomorrow morning. It was not planned to have a question and answer session but if Deputies feel that a question and answer session would be important, we will give consideration to it. We will report back on the decisions taken at the European Council meeting if it concludes tomorrow night. I hear different versions, such as that it might go on for long time and that it might conclude very quickly, but we will report back to the Dáil as required, followed by a question and answer session. Leaders of the parties have the right to ask Leaders' Questions and other questions arising from that in any event.

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Only once a week now.

Photo of Luke FlanaganLuke Flanagan (Roscommon-South Leitrim, Independent)
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With reference to No. 35 on the Order Paper, "That the European Communities (Birds and Natural Habitats) Regulations 2011 (S.I. No. 477 of 2011) be and are hereby annulled.", will the Government give time to discuss this matter and debate it, given the penal sanctions included in these new regulations? One of these sanctions could mean that a turf cutter could receive up to three years in prison and €500,000 in fines and an old person could potentially have a mobile telephone taken off him or her and have the information on it used to prosecute for ringing a turf cutter to keep the house warm. Will time be provided to discuss and debate this and vote on the introduction of these regulations? If the Government is so fond of them and so keen on them, it should put them to a vote.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I heard Deputy Flanagan screeching on the streets of Ballinasloe. If I had got near him, I would have reminded him that turf smoke is very different to other kinds of smoke.

Photo of Luke FlanaganLuke Flanagan (Roscommon-South Leitrim, Independent)
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Has the Taoiseach tried both? There is no statute of limitations on the decision to prosecute.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I advise the Deputy to bring it before the committee.

Photo of Pat RabbittePat Rabbitte (Dublin South West, Labour)
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Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Photo of Luke FlanaganLuke Flanagan (Roscommon-South Leitrim, Independent)
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It is a big joke is that people will be cold.

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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On promised legislation-----

Photo of Luke FlanaganLuke Flanagan (Roscommon-South Leitrim, Independent)
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Deputy Buttimer has plenty of oil in his tank.

Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Now Deputy Durkan knows what it is like to be interrupted.

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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When the current Opposition was in government, on numerous occasions I raised the question of the intentions with respect to the national vetting bureau Bill. In view of its urgency and in order to keep the matter alive, will the Taoiseach give some indication on the progress on the heads of the Bill and when it is anticipated that the Bill will be before the House? It has been recognised as an urgently required item of legislation, even as far back as five or seven years ago by the previous Administration.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The national vetting bureau Bill has been passed to the committee for its response to the heads of the Bill. It might be published in this session but it will probably be published in the next session.

Photo of Timmy DooleyTimmy Dooley (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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Over the course of the weekend, the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport indicated he was about to review the State Airports Act. He talked about the privatisation or the potential lease of airports at Shannon and Cork. The notion of privatisation of those airports or the lease arrangement of those airports is not contained in the State Airports Act. Is it proposed to introduce legislation to update or amend that Act to provide for the privatisation or the leasing of those facilities?

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I have not spoken to the Minister about that but I understand he received a proposition from the board about privatisation of the airport for ten to 15 years. The Minister made a statement about reviewing the situation concerning the three airports, while clearly of the view that the original concept of the former Minister, the late Seamus Brennan, could not be fulfilled because of the debt levels involved. I assume the Minister will update the House when he has reviewed the position.