Dáil debates
Thursday, 21 October 2010
Other Questions
National Emergency Plan
4:00 pm
John Perry (Sligo-North Leitrim, Fine Gael)
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Question 9: To ask the Minister for Defence further to parliamentary Question No. 313 of 7 July 2010, when the Government Task Force on Emergency Planning was established; the number of times it has met to discuss emergency planning issues; the expert advice which has been received by the group to date; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [38077/10]
David Stanton (Cork East, Fine Gael)
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Question 214: To ask the Minister for Defence further to Parliamentary Questions No. 202 of 27 May 2010 and No.10 of the 8 July 2010, the details of the membership or employees name, position held, location, staffing grade and so on of each office, committee or group respectively (details supplied); when each committee, office or group was established; if it is still in operation; the terms of reference, functions and remit of same; the total cost to the State per annum, in any; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [37535/10]
Tony Killeen (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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I propose to take Question Nos. 9 and 214 together.
There are two committees dealing with emergency planning that come under the aegis of my Department, namely the Government taskforce on emergency planning and the interdepartmental working group on emergency planning.
The Government taskforce on emergency planning, which was established in 2001, is comprised of Ministers and-or senior officials from all Departments and key public bodies that have a role in emergency planning and response. The taskforce supports co-ordination of emergency planning across Departments and agencies. It provides a forum for keeping emergency planning high on the agenda of all Departments and it examines cross-cutting issues that impact across Government.
The taskforce meets on a regular basis. The most recent meeting was held on Thursday last, 14 October, which was its 67th meeting. The interdepartmental working group was also established in 2001. It supports the work of the Government taskforce and carries out specific tasks under the direction of the taskforce. It has met on 57 occasions. The most recent meeting took place on 20 September 2010.
The taskforce is a forum for sharing information among the key stakeholders and much of the expert advice is provided from within the taskforce. External experts are invited to make presentations to the taskforce from time to time on a range of emergency planning issues. The taskforce has recently sought expert advice for drawing up a template which will inform Departments and agencies of the key benchmarks against which emergency responses may be reviewed. The work is currently being carried out by the Dublin City University business school and will be completed shortly.
Representation on the taskforce can be at ministerial level or, more usually, at senior official level while representation at interdepartmental working group is at senior or middle management level. The names of the officials currently serving on the Government taskforce on emergency planning and the interdepartmental working group are listed in the tabular statement which will be circulated. There is no additional cost to the State arising from either of these committees as the officials attend and participate as part of their normal duties. The office of emergency planning is a joint civil and military office within the Department, which supports the Government taskforce and the interdepartmental working group. The office also manages the National Emergency Co-ordination Centre, which was activated during last winter's severe weather events and during the volcanic ash emergency that occurred in April to May of this year. All costs associated with the office of emergency planning and with the National Emergency Co-ordination Centre are met from the Defence Vote.
Membership of the Government Task Force on Emergency Planning:
(Principal and Deputy Representative)
Mr. Tony Killeen T.D.,
Minister for Defence (Chair)
Office of Emergency Planning
Fred Bradley
Col Declan Hayes
Jerry Kelliher
Department of Defence
Brian Spain
Michael O'Boyle
Defence Forces
Major General Ralph James
Col S. O'Giollain
Department of Agriculture Fisheries and Food
Martin Heraghty
Joe Shortall
Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Aidan Ryan
Department of Community, Equality and Gaeltacht Affairs
Mary Hurley
Department of Education and Skills
Martin Hanevy
Brian Brogan
Department of Enterprise, Trade and Innovation
Brian Whitney
John Newham
Department of Environment, Heritage and Local Government
Des Dowling
Sean Hogan
Met Éireann
Gerald Fleming
Aidan Kelly
The Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland
Dr. Ann McGarry
Dr. Tom Ryan
Department of Finance
Patricia Coleman
Derek Moran
Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Gerard Moran
Finbar O'Leary
Office of Public Works
Tony Smyth
Les Lennox
Department of Foreign Affairs
Barrie Robinson
Tim Mawe
Department of Health and Children
Dr. Tony Holohan
Luke Mulligan
The Health Service Executive
Gavin Maguire
Pat O'Riordan
Department of Justice and Law Reform
Ken O'Leary
Martin Power
An Garda Síochána
Assistant Commissioner Noreen O'Sullivan
Chief Supt. Pat Hogan
Department of Social Protection
Brian O'Raghallaigh
Paul Carroll
Department of An Taoiseach & GIS
Philip Hamell
Ray Henry
Government Information Service & Press Office
Eoghan O'Neachtain
Kate O'Toole
Department of Tourism Culture and Sport
Paul Bates
Susan McGrath
Department of Transport
Dermot McCarthy
Eddie Burke
Membership of the Inter-Departmental Working Group on Emergency Planning:
(Principal and Deputy Representative)
Office of Emergency Planning
Mr. Fred Bradley (Chair)
Col. Declan Hayes
Comdt Larry Rooney
Ann Corrigan
Department of Defence
Michael O'Boyle
Defence Forces
Lt. Col M. Smyth
Comdt. Patrick Power
Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food
Joe Shortall
John Byrne
Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Aidan Ryan
Department of Community, Equality and Gaeltacht Affairs
Mary Hurley
Department of Education and Skills
Brian Brogan
Department of Enterprise, Trade and Innovation
John Newham
Richard Barry
Department of Environment, Heritage and Local Government
Sean Hogan
The Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland
Dr. Ciara McMahon
Dr. Catherine Organo
Department of Finance
Derek Moran
Dermot Keane
Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Finbar O' Leary
Office of Public Works
Les Lennox
Department of Foreign Affairs
Ray Walker
Department of Health and Children
Luke Mulligan
Peter Hanrahan
The Health Service Executive
Gavin Maguire
Pat O'Riordan
Department of Justice and Law Reform
Dermot Woods
Nellie Dennehy
An Garda Síochána
Det Supt. Liam King
Det. Insp. Brian O'Reilly
Department of Social Protection
Paul Carroll
Vincent Hegarty
Department of An Taoiseach
Ray Henry
Mary Murphy
Government Information Service & Press Office
Kate O'Toole
Jacky Bryan
Department of Tourism, Culture and Sport
Paul Bates
Susan McGrath
Department of Transport
Eddie Burke
John Conroy
The Irish Coastguard
Chris Reynolds
David Stanton (Cork East, Fine Gael)
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What role does the Reserve Defence Force have in emergency planning? Has it been used during the past 12 months in the various weather emergencies that have occurred?
Could the Minister outline the various types of emergency for which we are preparing? Is he satisfied the Defence Forces are called out in a timely fashion? At times it appears the Defence Forces are called out very late in the day. Has any work been done to assess whether it would be better to call on the Defence Forces earlier than has been the case? I accept they cannot act on their own; they have to be invited to assist by the Garda or civilian authorities. Does the Minister agree it would be better if they were called in at an earlier stage in some cases? If that were the case they could provide greater help rather than at the last minute when the state of emergency has become acute. It appears the Defence Forces are seen as a last resort.
Tony Killeen (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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I am aware the Reserve Defence Force was deployed in at least one situation during the weather emergencies because I saw it happening. The Reserve Defence Force is available to be called in when the judgment is made that the Defence Forces are required. It is difficult to be specific or prescriptive about when to call in the Defence Forces. The Defence Forces are represented on the taskforce. The judgment is made at Defence Forces level in the area in which an incident is being dealt with.
There are either 43 or 46 individual emergency types set out in the framework. In each of those cases the lead Department is specified, as are the support agencies and Departments that would come into play in each case. The most recent emergency was the incidence of volcanic ash in which the Department of Transport was the lead agency. In the case of both the severe ice and snow and the prior flood events the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government was the lead agency, although in practice on the ground the local authorities were responsible. Prior to that the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food was the lead agency in the pork dioxin crisis. Immediately prior to that was the avian flu issue on which the Department of Health and Children was the lead Department. Many examples are set out and in each of them the lead Department is specified.
There is a question about the type of emergency involved, whether it is local, regional or national and whether, when, if and how a state of emergency ought to be declared. The taskforce has worked on some trigger mechanisms that give guidance in that regard. Inevitably, each crisis that is dealt with by the taskforce better informs the response for the next one. Many exercises are carried out jointly by agencies and Departments in anticipation of having to deal with emergencies.
Brian O'Shea (Waterford, Labour)
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The issue of personal liability for actions carried out during an emergency was brought to my attention by a senior local authority official. He told me members of the Garda Síochána are covered, as are members of the Health Service Executive. I assume members of the Defence Forces are covered. However, members of local authorities are not covered. Could the Minister shed light on that issue? If there is a problem, is there a proposal to deal with it?
Tony Killeen (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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The issue of personal liability arose in the past three or four taskforce meetings I attended. A number of initiatives are under way in that regard. I understand the Department of Justice and Law Reform has introduced legislation to clarify the situation with regard to some personnel. As a general principle my understanding is that if people carry out whatever duties they undertake with due care and attention and in a professional manner their position is copper-fastened.
Issues have arisen in terms of intervention by individual householders in clearing ice on the footpath outside their premises or in the case of voluntary organisations being called in to support agencies to deal with an emergency. I do not refer to the Reserve Defence Force or the Civil Defence in this instance, rather a local sporting organisation. Issues arise in that regard. I have sought clarification from the Attorney General on how best we might address that. Regardless of legislative change I have no doubt but the principle of responsibility in the event of one doing something inappropriate would be likely to apply.