Dáil debates

Wednesday, 8 February 2006

12:00 pm

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is proposed to take No. 3, the Finance Bill 2006 — Second Stage, resumed. It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that the Dáil shall sit later than 8.30 p.m. tonight, business shall be interrupted on the conclusion of Private Members' business, which shall be No. 41, motion re Irish farming sector, resumed, which shall be taken after 90 minutes at 7 p.m. or at the conclusion of No. 3, whichever is the later, and the proceedings of the resumed Second Stage of No. 3 shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion at 7 p.m.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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There are two proposals to be put to the House. Is the proposal for the late sitting agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 3, conclusion of Second Stage of the Finance Bill 2006, agreed?

Photo of Caoimhghín Ó CaoláinCaoimhghín Ó Caoláin (Cavan-Monaghan, Sinn Fein)
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It is not agreed.

Photo of Joan BurtonJoan Burton (Dublin West, Labour)
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The Minister for Finance, in last night's debate, declared that the Government has made a decision not to undertake a cost benefit analysis on tax breaks for psychiatric hospitals, institutions and mental care centres. This is in stark contrast to what the Taoiseach just stated. There is no opportunity to debate this in the course of the Finance Bill.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The proposal relates only to the taking of the Finance Bill. The Deputy is opposed to the taking of the Finance Bill.

Photo of Joan BurtonJoan Burton (Dublin West, Labour)
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We are objecting to it being guillotined because we have no opportunity to discuss this really important issue of tax breaks for investment in Irish psychiatric health care.

Photo of Caoimhghín Ó CaoláinCaoimhghín Ó Caoláin (Cavan-Monaghan, Sinn Fein)
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I object to the guillotine applying to Second Stage of the Finance Bill this evening. For the reason Deputy Burton highlighted, and others allied to it, the Government is only too delighted to see a guillotine apply, with less opportunity provided to Members to draw attention to and tease out the salient items in the Finance Bill and those that are not so. This is against the backdrop of the publication on Monday of the review of tax reliefs which saw €37 million having been given to private hospitals since 2001. We are hearing now of — the Bill intends to accommodate this — an extension of these reliefs to those who will provide private mental health care. Given the completely underfunded and under-resourced mental health care system and network throughout the State, it is bizarre that the Government will provide public moneys to support private care, which will allow a two-tier system of mental health provision.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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We cannot debate the Finance Bill now, but only the reason you are opposing it.

Photo of Caoimhghín Ó CaoláinCaoimhghín Ó Caoláin (Cavan-Monaghan, Sinn Fein)
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I will not do so. We will see a two-tier system of mental health provision here, where on the one hand those who can buy access will get the best treatments and speediest access possible while everybody else will have to languish and wait, just as we must do in the case of the public health system through the network of hospital sites. It is no wonder the Taoiseach wants to see a guillotine on this and I absolutely oppose it. The Finance Bill needs to be properly addressed and all Members in this House should be accommodated with the opportunity to participate in Second and Subsequent Stages.

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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I totally agree with the Deputy that the Bill should be teased out, and that is the purpose of Committee Stage.

Photo of Joan BurtonJoan Burton (Dublin West, Labour)
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On a point of order, many of the amendments will not be reached on Committee Stage.

Question put: "That the proposal for dealing with No. 3 be agreed."

The Dail Divided:

For the motion: 69 (Bertie Ahern, Dermot Ahern, Michael Ahern, Barry Andrews, Niall Blaney, Johnny Brady, Martin Brady, Séamus Brennan, Joe Callanan, Pat Carey, John Carty, Donie Cassidy, Mary Coughlan, Brian Cowen, John Cregan, Martin Cullen, John Curran, Noel Davern, Síle de Valera, Noel Dempsey, John Dennehy, Jimmy Devins, John Ellis, Michael Finneran, Dermot Fitzpatrick, Seán Fleming, Mildred Fox, Pat Gallagher, Jim Glennon, Mary Hanafin, Seán Haughey, Joe Jacob, Cecilia Keaveney, Billy Kelleher, Peter Kelly, Tony Killeen, Séamus Kirk, Tom Kitt, Brian Lenihan Jnr, Conor Lenihan, Michael McDowell, Tom McEllistrim, John McGuinness, Micheál Martin, John Moloney, Donal Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, M J Nolan, Éamon Ó Cuív, Seán Ó Fearghaíl, Charlie O'Connor, Willie O'Dea, Liz O'Donnell, Denis O'Donovan, Noel O'Flynn, Batt O'Keeffe, Ned O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Malley, Tim O'Malley, Tom Parlon, Mae Sexton, Brendan Smith, Michael Smith, Dan Wallace, Mary Wallace, Joe Walsh, Ollie Wilkinson, Michael Woods, G V Wright)

Against the motion: 58 (Bernard Allen, Dan Boyle, James Breen, Pat Breen, Tommy Broughan, Richard Bruton, Joan Burton, Paul Connaughton, Paudge Connolly, Jerry Cowley, Seán Crowe, Ciarán Cuffe, John Deasy, Jimmy Deenihan, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Olwyn Enright, Martin Ferris, Eamon Gilmore, John Gormley, Tom Hayes, Séamus Healy, Joe Higgins, Michael D Higgins, Phil Hogan, Brendan Howlin, Paul Kehoe, Enda Kenny, Kathleen Lynch, Pádraic McCormack, Dinny McGinley, Paul McGrath, Paddy McHugh, Liz McManus, Olivia Mitchell, Arthur Morgan, Breeda Moynihan-Cronin, Catherine Murphy, Denis Naughten, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Fergus O'Dowd, Jim O'Keeffe, Brian O'Shea, Jan O'Sullivan, Séamus Pattison, John Perry, Pat Rabbitte, Michael Ring, Eamon Ryan, Seán Ryan, Trevor Sargent, Joe Sherlock, Róisín Shortall, Emmet Stagg, David Stanton, Liam Twomey, Mary Upton)

Tellers: Tá, Deputies Kitt and Kelleher; Níl, Deputies Kehoe and Stagg.

Question declared carried.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I would like to raise No. 67, the judicial council Bill, which is to provide effective remedies for complaints about misbehaviour, including lay participation in the investigation of complaints. When are we likely to see that Bill published? It is scheduled for the middle of 2006.

Is it intended that the Sea-Fisheries and Maritime Jurisdiction Bill 2005 be retrospective? The Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, Deputy Noel Dempsey, stated in his letter to the chairman of the committee that is discussing the matter——

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but we cannot discuss the fisheries Bill in the House.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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This is very important.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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It may well be important, but there is a long-standing tradition in this House that when the Bill is before the committee, it is the committee that deals with it.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I know of that tradition, but there is complete confusion. I am asking the Taoiseach a question.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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It is not a matter for this House until the committee reports back to it.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I want to know this. The Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources has said in a letter that a small group of fishermen has deliberately flouted the law and made substantial sums.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but it does not arise on the Order of Business. I ask Deputy Kenny to accept the rulings of the Chair.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I will accept the rulings of the Chair.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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That ruling has been there since the committees were established.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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My question is whether this Bill will deal with that matter.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but as the Chair has pointed out, when a Bill is referred to a committee, what happens is that the affairs of the committee cannot be discussed. That is a matter for the committee, which will discuss the Bill.

Photo of Noel DempseyNoel Dempsey (Meath, Fianna Fail)
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I will answer when Fine Gael stops filibustering.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The committee refused to discuss the Bill until the contents had been discussed.

Photo of Noel DempseyNoel Dempsey (Meath, Fianna Fail)
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The Deputy should tell his members on the committee to get in there, and we will answer the question.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I want to know if the Minister's Bill is attempting to deal with something retrospectively.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but it is a matter for the committee to discuss.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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He said that a small number of fishermen deliberately flout the law and make substantial sums. He has set the entire coastal community——

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but we must allow for the committee to discuss it.

(Interruptions).

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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Let us not get upset.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The legislation is a matter for the committee, which will debate it section by section, decide and report back to the House, which will then have another opportunity.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The committee has decided not to discuss the Bill until this matter has been dealt with. The chairman of the committee is a representative of the Fianna Fáil Party.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but it will be back in the House on Report Stage, when the Deputy will have an opportunity.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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He has been told by his Minister that a small number of fishermen have deliberately flouted the law and made substantial sums.

(Interruptions).

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I ask the Deputy to accept the rulings of the Chair and not to argue with it. The Chair has ruled on the matter in accordance with precedent.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Far be it from me to argue with the Ceann Comhairle, but this is an important matter of great interest.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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It will be dealt with in the way that the House has always done so.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Last night I saw the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, Deputy Roche, return flushed from the deserts of Dubai. He was red-faced with embarrassment trying to answer questions on the nitrates directive. The Minister for Agriculture and Food, Deputy Coughlan, is not here. She has abandoned the House, just as she has abandoned Irish farmers.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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Once again, that matter is before the House on Private Members' business.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I want to know from the Taoiseach what the Minister, Deputy Roche, between closing down Sellafield and dealing with Wrigley's chewing gum, will do about Part 3 of the regulations, which he has withdrawn.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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It does not arise. I call the Taoiseach on the first question. I suggest that the Deputy submit a question to the Minister.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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This is the legislation on the implementation of the nitrates directive. It is SI 788 of 2005. These are the regulations being implemented by the Government.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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We cannot go into the detail on the Order of Business.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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They do not take into account the scientific evidence provided by Teagasc, which makes us proud by telling us that we have the cleanest water in Europe. However, the Minister for Agriculture and Food, Deputy Coughlan, abandoned it to the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, Deputy Roche, who has no regard whatsoever for agri-economics or the confusion that he will now cause.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but the Deputy knows he is trying to drive a coach and four through the Order of Business.

Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I want to know from the Taoiseach what will now happen to Part 3 of the regulations, which he has withdrawn, and whether the Government intends to withdraw the statutory instrument entirely and reintroduce it to the House in a fashion that can be implemented.

Photo of Jim O'KeeffeJim O'Keeffe (Cork South West, Fine Gael)
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He should withdraw the lot and recast it.

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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The judicial council Bill is due in 2006. The draft heads are being prepared in the Department, taking into account work completed by the constitution review group, the Joint Committee on the Constitution, and the Chief Justice's committee on judicial ethics. On Part 3 of the nitrates regulations, the EU (Good Agricultural Practice for Protection of Waters) Regulations 2005, the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, Deputy Roche, has announced that there will a short deferral to deal with nutrient management.

Photo of Jim O'KeeffeJim O'Keeffe (Cork South West, Fine Gael)
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Has the regulation been withdrawn?

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Rabbitte without interruption.

Photo of Jim O'KeeffeJim O'Keeffe (Cork South West, Fine Gael)
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Has it been withdrawn?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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Did the Deputy hear what I said?

Photo of Jim O'KeeffeJim O'Keeffe (Cork South West, Fine Gael)
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Did the Taoiseach hear what I asked him? Has the regulation been withdrawn?

(Interruptions).

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Rabbitte without interruption. I ask the Minister and Deputy Jim O'Keeffe to allow Deputy Rabbitte without interruption.

Photo of Pat RabbittePat Rabbitte (Dublin South West, Labour)
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After the appearance from Dubai, it is no longer possible to blame Teagasc. Last night's programme largely made clear that Teagasc is not to blame.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but we cannot have a discussion on it.

Photo of Pat RabbittePat Rabbitte (Dublin South West, Labour)
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The Minister went ahead and made his own decisions, for which he should answer.

Why is there still a vacancy in the second tier of Government, and when does the Taoiseach propose to fill it?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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Shortly.

Photo of Trevor SargentTrevor Sargent (Dublin North, Green Party)
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Perhaps the Taoiseach might say what he means by "shortly".

I wish to ask about promised legislation. Regardless of the law of the land applying, it seems the Government has difficulty in agreeing on the law of the sea when it comes to promised legislation. I talk not only of fisheries but of the harbours Bill, which was in the Department of Communications, Marine and Natural Resources but is now in the Department of Transport. On the Bremore development, it seems that Fianna Fáil and the Progressive Democrats hold diametrically opposed views. When can we have the harbours Bill published by whatever Department is now responsible? We have been told that it is pending, but we have heard that before.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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We cannot have a debate.

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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The legislation is due in 2006.

Photo of Trevor SargentTrevor Sargent (Dublin North, Green Party)
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Again.

Photo of David StantonDavid Stanton (Cork East, Fine Gael)
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When will we see legislation or ministerial orders to establish the new national Irish heritage trust?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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Legislation is being prepared. I am not sure when it will be ready, but the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, Deputy Roche, is working on it.

Photo of Róisín ShortallRóisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Labour)
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In a few months, we face complete gridlock on the M50, and particularly the West Link, since the Dublin Port tunnel will be adding an additional 2,500 trucks to it every day. That is because of the Minister's inability to deal with this problem and plan ahead. Among the things that he had promised to do was introduce legislation to allow for open-road tolling last autumn. We still have not seen it. How much longer must we wait, and when will there be action from the Minister on this issue?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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The legislation is being prepared at present.

Photo of Róisín ShortallRóisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Labour)
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At present. When can we expect to see it?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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Later in the year, as soon as it is ready.

Photo of Róisín ShortallRóisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Labour)
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When can we expect any solution to the problems of the West Link?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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The legislation will be prepared this year, but some other Bills have preference. The infrastructural Bill has priority, and the same section is drafting it.

Photo of Róisín ShortallRóisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Labour)
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Does the Taoiseach accept we are facing complete gridlock with an extra 2,500 trucks on the West Link?

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Ó Caoláin. Deputy Shortall cannot have a debate on the matter.

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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I accept that it is necessary.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I call Deputy Ó Caoláin.

Photo of Róisín ShortallRóisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Labour)
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What will be done about it? The Government has known about the port tunnel for years.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I ask Deputy Shortall to resume her seat and allow Deputy Ó Caoláin to contribute.

Photo of Róisín ShortallRóisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Labour)
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"Nothing" is the answer, just as with everything else for which the Minister is responsible.

Photo of Martin CullenMartin Cullen (Waterford, Fianna Fail)
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No, it is just hot air coming from over there.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I ask the Minister to allow Deputy Ó Caoláin to contribute without interruption.

(Interruptions).

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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A tyre pressure gauge — that is the only way.

Photo of Caoimhghín Ó CaoláinCaoimhghín Ó Caoláin (Cavan-Monaghan, Sinn Fein)
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Three Bills relate to health. I wish to ask regarding the health (nursing homes) (amendment) Bill, the hepatitis C and HIV compensation tribunal (amendment) Bill, and the health (repayment scheme) Bill, formerly the repayment scheme for charges for publicly funded residential long stay care Bill.

Under the current programme each of these is promised for this spring session. Will the Taoiseach advise the House in what order of priority they will be presented and will he reaffirm they will be published in this session?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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They are all due in this session. Priority was given to the nursing homes Bill.

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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A recent survey in the UK disclosed tens of thousands of visits to child porn Internet sites over a long period of time. Will the promised legislation affecting this area be brought to the House as a matter of urgency? The electronic communications miscellaneous provisions Bill seems to be the obvious vehicle to control this unwarranted and dangerous practice, which is growing. Will the Taoiseach indicate whether he and the Minister will move with urgency on this issue?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Bill is due this year. Strong legislation to deal with child pornography has been on the Statute Book for a number of years. This country was well advanced in dealing with this matter as the legislation was passed several years ago.

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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There has been some dispute about that.

Photo of Catherine MurphyCatherine Murphy (Kildare North, Independent)
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In view of the number of new properties for sale, the ambiguity surrounding property management companies and the sometimes disgraceful advice being given by the legal profession to their clients, when will legislation be introduced to regulate these property management companies?

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is legislation promised?

Photo of Emmet StaggEmmet Stagg (Kildare North, Labour)
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The Minister promised it in the House.

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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I am not sure which Act deals with this.

Photo of Róisín ShortallRóisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Labour)
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The Taoiseach should tell us.

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Minister is preparing proposals but I cannot recall the relevant Act.

Photo of Catherine MurphyCatherine Murphy (Kildare North, Independent)
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What about all the people buying houses who are being snookered by this?

Photo of Liz McManusLiz McManus (Wicklow, Labour)
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Will the Taoiseach inform the House when the promised human tissue legislation will be introduced? It is probably ten years since the Medical Council first urged the Government to produce a medical practitioners Bill. When will we see that legislation?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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Which legislation?

Photo of Liz McManusLiz McManus (Wicklow, Labour)
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I cannot hear the Taoiseach.

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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It will be later this year, in the autumn.

Photo of Liz McManusLiz McManus (Wicklow, Labour)
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Is the Taoiseach saying that both those Bills will be ready?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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No. The medical practitioners Bill will be ready in the autumn.

Photo of Liz McManusLiz McManus (Wicklow, Labour)
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What about the other legislation?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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There is no human tissue legislation listed.

Photo of Liz McManusLiz McManus (Wicklow, Labour)
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It has been promised for some time. Will the Taoiseach come back to me on that issue?

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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Yesterday I raised the issue of legislation governing the tenant purchase scheme for local authority housing. The Taoiseach had not been briefed at that stage but I believe he has now been briefed. Will such legislation be contained in a new social housing Bill?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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I believe I answered the Deputy's question. Legislation is being prepared on tenant purchase.

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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Will the provisions be included in a new social housing Bill?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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I am not sure.

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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I will raise this matter again next week. I understood the Taoiseach had been briefed in the meantime.

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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I believe my office contacted the Deputy regarding this matter.

Photo of John GormleyJohn Gormley (Dublin South East, Green Party)
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The Department for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government contacted me.

Photo of Noel DempseyNoel Dempsey (Meath, Fianna Fail)
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A phone call.

Photo of David StantonDavid Stanton (Cork East, Fine Gael)
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In view of the fact that the child care supplement will not be paid until very late in the year, perhaps as a Christmas bonus, when will legislation be introduced to establish the new children's office?

Photo of Bertie AhernBertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)
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There is no truth in that view about the payments; they will be made when they are due.

Jerry Cowley (Mayo, Independent)
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This House deals with legislation. Will the Taoiseach investigate the situation whereby the Constitution does not allow people to be treated equally? People have been waiting eight years for urology services in Galway. We need a urology service as 1,000 people are waiting.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The matter does not arise on the Order of Business. The Deputy will have to find another way of raising the matter.

Photo of Tommy BroughanTommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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With reference to an earlier question, does the Taoiseach intend to make a number of appointments in his reshuffle? I notice a couple of distinguished Fianna Fáil backbenchers are assiduously following proceedings and they might be recommended for promotion.

The Taoiseach will be present on Sunday at the Stardust memorial function. I refer to the matter I raised on the Adjournment of the House last night. Will the Taoiseach give consideration to establishing another inquiry into the causes of the disaster and its investigation?

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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That question was raised yesterday on the Order of Business.

Photo of Tommy BroughanTommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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I raised it last night.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy cannot raise it again.

Photo of Tommy BroughanTommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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The Taoiseach is a fellow northsider. I wish to make a brief point on legislation. Yesterday the Ceann Comhairle underlined part of the question I asked him, whether the Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources had sought the advice of the Attorney General——

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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That does not arise.

Photo of Tommy BroughanTommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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It relates to legislation. I understand the Ceann Comhairle misled me.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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What legislation?

Photo of Tommy BroughanTommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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I asked about four or five European Union regulations concerning administrative fines. I asked whether the Attorney General had seen the Minister's——

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy cannot discuss that matter here. He will have to find another way of raising it.

Photo of Tommy BroughanTommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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The Ceann Comhairle misled me. We cannot make progress on the fisheries Bill. We do not know where we stand. The Ceann Comhairle misled the House in the reply he gave me.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The House is moving on to the next business. The Chair has already ruled on that matter. I wish to make it clear to Deputy Broughan that we will not discuss legislation that is before a committee. It has never been the practice here and it is not the practice now. It is a matter for the committee.

Photo of Tommy BroughanTommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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The committee cannot get going. We are stopped dead in the committee. As the leader of Fine Gael said, we cannot make progress.