Dáil debates

Thursday, 20 October 2005

Other Questions.

Decentralisation Programme.

3:00 pm

Photo of Liz McManusLiz McManus (Wicklow, Labour)
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Question 10: To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the progress he has made towards decentralisation; the sections of his Department which have been decentralised; the sections which remain to be decentralised; the cost of decentralisation to date; the cost of decentralisation when complete; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [29749/05]

Photo of Michael McDowellMichael McDowell (Dublin South East, Progressive Democrats)
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Under the Government's decentralisation programme close to 1,000 posts from nine agencies under the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform will transfer to seven different locations around the country. The details and timescales for these moves are published in the decentralisation implementation group's progress report to the Minister for Finance dated 30 June 2005 and are set out in the following table.

The indicative dates for the completion of the programme range from early 2007 to mid 2009 and the detailed implementation plans for each of these agencies are published on my Department's website. The Deputy will also be aware that I announced earlier this week that the new regulatory authority for the auctioneering sector will be established in Navan and the private security authority is already up and running in Tipperary town.

All the agencies are on track with regard to the timetables set out in their implementation plans. In particular, the Irish Prison Service has been classified by the implementation group as an "early mover". The Office of Public Works has acquired a suitable site in Longford and it is anticipated that the building will be ready for occupation by the Irish Prison Service in early 2007. In addition, the central vetting unit will move from Garda headquarters to Thurles in November, when around 40 posts will be transferred.

As regards costs, the property element is primarily a matter for the Office of Public Works. To date, I understand that costs amount to just over €500,000. Non-property costs at this stage relate mainly to administration and management functions which are estimated to be around €300,000 for the entire Department, where roughly 22,000 public servants work. The Deputy must also appreciate that property will be freed up in Dublin, which will yield significant savings as a result of decentralisation.

In the late 1980s, the Department's then accounts branch decentralised to Killarney, involving the transfer of around 160 posts. The Land Registry went to the Waterford area and the Legal Aid Board decentralised to Cahirciveen, involving around 170 posts. The private security authority has been functioning effectively in Tipperary town for almost a year. There has been no case of a diminution in the quantity or quality of service. The decentralisation process in the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform has been quite successful.

Additional information not provided on the floor of the House.

Moreover, the decentralisation process has been a success both for the towns involved as well as for the staff of the agencies in question.

Location Organisation Posts Indicative Construction Start Indicative Construction Completion
Longford Irish Prison Service HQ 159 End 2005 Early 2007
Portarlington Data Protection Commissioner 22 Mid 2006 End 2007
Portarlington Equality Tribunal 29 Mid 2006 End 2007
Roscommon Land Registry 230 Mid 2007 Mid 2009
Roscrea Equality Authority 54 End 2007 End 2008
Roscrea Garda Complaints Board 24 Mid 2007 Mid 2008
Thurles* Garda Headquarters 114 End 2006 Early 2008
Tipperary** Sections of Asylum & Immigration 186 Early 2007 End 2008
Navan Probation & Welfare Service 103 End 2007 Early 2009
*Garda central vetting unit to decentralise in November 2005 with close to 40 posts.
**Private security authority in place in Tipperary since 2004 with a current staff complement of 13.

Photo of Joe CostelloJoe Costello (Dublin Central, Labour)
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How many civil servants are left in the Minister's Department on St. Stephen's Green? Can he confirm that he has already sold that building for €53 million and that the Department is now renting accommodation elsewhere on St. Stephen's Green? Does he intend to leave the situation as it stands? Is he thinking of decentralising himself somewhere else?

Photo of Michael McDowellMichael McDowell (Dublin South East, Progressive Democrats)
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The Department will stay in Dublin but a number of other Departments are scheduled to leave Dublin. The main sections of the Department of Education and Science are going to Navan, while the Office of Public Works will also leave Dublin. There will be substantial buildings remaining which will become available to the State for the relocation of the Departments that remain in Dublin. In such circumstances, it made sense to sell off the somewhat decayed building that housed the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. I am sure Deputy Quinn does not think it one of the better architectural features of our world.

Photo of Ruairi QuinnRuairi Quinn (Dublin South East, Labour)
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It is a horrible building.

Photo of Michael McDowellMichael McDowell (Dublin South East, Progressive Democrats)
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It made sense to get rid of it. A very large capital sum was obtained for it. We are also vacating an office block on Shelbourne Road, the site value of which would be €50-100 million. We are relocating the St. Stephen's Green office to rented accommodation for the moment but the plan is to put us into buildings vacated by other Departments when they move out.