Dáil debates

Thursday, 30 June 2005

Requests to move Adjournment of Dáil under Standing Order 31.

 

10:30 am

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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Before coming to the Order of Business I propose to deal with a number of notices under Standing Order 31.

Photo of Finian McGrathFinian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the disgraceful situation concerning a young pupil with Down's syndrome assessed as having a mild disability, who was to start school in September 2005 in a class of 26 junior infants and who has been refused resource teaching hours; the need to ensure that this scandalous situation accords with disability legislation and the need to ensure appropriate education opportunities for this pupil and other pupils with disability. Within 24 hours of the Disability Bill being completed, it is an absolute disgrace——

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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It is not appropriate to go beyond the notice submitted to my office.

Photo of Finian McGrathFinian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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——that a child with disability is being refused a service.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy may not use Standing Order 31 in this manner.

Photo of Finian McGrathFinian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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With respect a Cheann Comhairle, but just 24 hours after the Disability Bill passed through the Houses, a child with a disability has been refused a service.

Photo of Michael RingMichael Ring (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the jailing of five innocent landowners from Rossport, County Mayo, who object to the proposed gas pipeline on health and safety grounds. They are trying to protect their lands, families and livelihoods, given that there are two alternative routes for the gas pipeline. One was stopped owing to cost implications or to save Shell some money. The other was stopped for environmental reasons to preserve birds and plants but with no concern for residents.

This project has been supported by the county council and Government and all the resources of the State were put behind it. The views and safety concerns of the residents were not taken into account although they will have to suffer the consequences of the proposed pipeline. I ask that we discuss this issue this morning. Five innocent men are in prison and we want these people out of prison. It is not right. There are people in prison.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The fact that Deputy McGrath went outside the Standing Order does not allow Deputy Ring to do so.

Photo of Michael RingMichael Ring (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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Five of my constituents are in prison this morning while the people who should be in prison are not. Shame on the Government.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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For the information of the House, there are 11 Members with motions under Standing Order 31. The Standing Order is quite specific. A Member cannot go beyond the notice submitted to my office.

Photo of Marian HarkinMarian Harkin (Sligo-Leitrim, Independent)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the jailing of five landowners from County Mayo who have genuine health and safety concerns and who still await the publication of the independent quality risk assessment on the laying of that pipeline at Ballinaboy in County Mayo.

Photo of Tommy BroughanTommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the need for the Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources to intervene to seek a resolution of the dispute between local residents and the Shell oil company in north Mayo following the outrageous jailing of five local residents, and to ask the Minister to appoint urgently an independent arbitrator and to request the Shell oil company to waive immediately the court order which it sought to jail these five citizens.

Photo of Seymour CrawfordSeymour Crawford (Cavan-Monaghan, Fine Gael)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the restructuring of the Teagasc advisory service, which entails the closure and sale of many offices throughout the country at a time when the Minister of Agriculture and Food advises that finance for Teagasc is not a problem and when the Department returned €383 million to the Department of Finance over recent years. Never before did farmers need so much advice to deal with the single payment system and the nitrates directive.

Photo of Joe HigginsJoe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the jailing of five small landholders and residents in north Mayo at the behest of the Shell corporation; the fact that Shell is allowed to lay a pipeline for raw natural gas without the risk assessment report on the project being published and debated, in advance of the Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources signs any consent order and before a comprehensive hearing on all the substantive issues in the High Court scheduled for the autumn; the need to debate why Corrib gas, a major natural resource off the west coast, should be handed over to a multinational corporation with not a penny in royalties for the people. That is absolutely disgraceful.

Jerry Cowley (Mayo, Independent)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the scandalous jailing of five Rossport residents who have been in mortal fear of their lives and the lives of their families due to the imposition of a potentially lethal gas pipeline on their lands and who have done no wrong except to assert their right to be left in peace in their own homes. I call the Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, Deputy Noel Dempsey, to intervene urgently with Shell to ensure their immediate relief. This is utterly disgraceful. Those people should not be in jail.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I ask the Deputy not to take lessons from his colleague, Deputy Ring.

Jerry Cowley (Mayo, Independent)
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It is the Minister who should be in jail. Government Deputies will have to stand up and account for themselves. It is a disgrace.

Photo of Denis NaughtenDenis Naughten (Longford-Roscommon, Fine Gael)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the disgraceful and unjustifiable circumstance in which eight inspectors visited one part-time farmer to evaluate his eligibility in respect of 48 acres of farmland under cross-compliance regulations. There is an immediate need for the Minister for Agriculture and Food to outline the reasons for this farcical state of affairs and give a commitment to the Dáil that there will be no further such incidents. The Minister must provide that farmers will be given up to 14 days notice of on-farm inspections rather than subject to on-the-spot inspections which are both impractical, as many farmers work part time, and unwarranted, as inspections are based on farmland itself which cannot be tampered with no matter what the extent of the notification.

Photo of Trevor SargentTrevor Sargent (Dublin North, Green Party)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter which was also raised on the Adjournment last night: the need for amended legislation and a prompt payment ombudsman to address the withholding of legitimate payments involving millions of euro by, in the main, certain large companies to subcontractors which continues to result in serious cash-flow problems for small and medium size businesses and which has also caused the inexcusable intimidation of people who are themselves victims of non-payment.

Photo of Eamon RyanEamon Ryan (Dublin South, Green Party)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the imprisonment of five men from Rossport, County Mayo as a result of their campaign simply to seek reassurance from the Department of Communications, Marine and Natural Resources and Shell Ireland Limited as to the safety of the proposed high-pressure gas pipeline carrying untreated and unpurified gas in bogland in close proximity to their homes.

Photo of Beverley FlynnBeverley Flynn (Mayo, Independent)
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I seek the adjournment of the Dáil under Standing Order 31 to debate the following urgent matter: the jailing of five Mayo people on foot of their opposition to the routing of the Shell gas pipeline in north Mayo. I call on the Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources to personally intervene in the impasse between the landowners concerned and the exploration company as a matter of extreme urgency.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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Having considered the matters raised, I do not consider them to be in order under Standing Order 31.

Photo of Michael RingMichael Ring (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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On a point of order, how many Members does it take to have a matter of national importance discussed?

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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That is not a point of order.

Photo of Michael RingMichael Ring (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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It is a point of order.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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If the Deputy has a problem with Standing Order 31, I will be glad to discuss it with him.

Photo of Michael RingMichael Ring (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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I would like to know how we can have the matter discussed on the floor of the Dáil today.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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If we cannot resolve the problem and the Members wish to change Standing Order 31, the Chair will implement the new Standing Order.

Photo of Pat RabbittePat Rabbitte (Dublin South West, Labour)
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A Cheann Comhairle, are there any circumstances in which you would concede to a request to move the adjournment under Standing Order 31? The matter in question can be revisited by Shell waiving its rights under the order and negotiating a simple resolution. The Tánaiste should concede a few minutes during the day for Members to record the above as the wishes of Dáil Éireann.

Deputies:

Hear, hear.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Chair has studied the matter and is of the view that Standing Order 31 does not apply.

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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A Cheann Comhairle, can you facilitate Members?

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Chair has ruled on the matter and we are not having a debate about it.

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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On a point of order, is it possible to allow a private notice question today to facilitate some discussion of the matter?

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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A private notice question submitted to the Office of the Ceann Comhairle will be considered in the usual way.

Photo of Emmet StaggEmmet Stagg (Kildare North, Labour)
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If the House is agreed, will the Tánaiste indicate that she will provide an hour to debate the matter during the day? There is spare time available as debates were shorter yesterday than expected.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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In response to Deputy Durkan, the Chair will give sympathetic consideration to a private notice question.

Photo of Emmet StaggEmmet Stagg (Kildare North, Labour)
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The Tánaiste might get up off her seat and respond to the House, or is she stuck to it?

Photo of Joe HigginsJoe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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A Cheann Comhairle, you must change the formulation by which you dismiss all requests to move the adjournment stating that they are not in order under Standing Order 31. They are in order under Standing Order 31, but you decide to exercise your discretion not to allow a debate to happen. That should be reflected in the form of words used.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Chair has ruled on the matter and responded to Deputy Durkan that a private notice question will receive favourable consideration.

Photo of Joe HigginsJoe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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Yes, but you will have to change the formulation you use because we are in order. It is your choice not to allow a debate.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy, if you are not satisfied with any Standing Order, you should arrange to have it changed. The Chair will be absolutely delighted to implement any new Standing Order.

Photo of Joe HigginsJoe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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Standing Order 31 is in place to allow matters of national importance to be debated.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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We are not having a debate on it.

Photo of Joe HigginsJoe Higgins (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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The jailing of five decent people due to the actions of a multinational corporation is a matter of national importance.

Photo of Rory O'HanlonRory O'Hanlon (Cavan-Monaghan, Ceann Comhairle)
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I accept that anything raised under Standing Order 31 is a matter of national importance in the eyes of the person who raises it. It must also be in accordance with the terms of the Standing Order, however. We now move on to the Order of Business.

Photo of Emmet StaggEmmet Stagg (Kildare North, Labour)
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Is the Tánaiste ignoring previous statements?

Photo of Mary HarneyMary Harney (Dublin Mid West, Progressive Democrats)
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I will have a suggestion on that later, if that is in order.