Eamonn Maloney (Dublin South West, Labour)

In case we are at odds, the Minister should note that the focus of the media and public at present is very much on the retirement of public service personnel. This is a separate issue from the one on which I want to focus, namely, bad expenditure practices in the public service that affect the taxpayer. Most members of the public refer to abuses of taxpayers' money in Departments, local authorities, etc. People believe these abuses are "part of the culture", a uniquely Irish phrase. The practices have nothing to do with culture; they involve the abuse of our taxes by a small number of people who are devoid of civic responsibility.

On mainland Europe, one admires the ways in which governments and public services can cut costs and protect the taxpayer from abuses or bad practices. When the Minister, Deputy Howlin, first took over his Department, I focused on certain sentences he used. Consequently, I believe he understands where I am coming from. In a very bad and deep recession, a different approach is required because there is not enough money. Whatever money is available is provided at the behest of our generous neighbours, who, of course, want it to be repaid. After 90 years of independence, we have an opportunity to change our habits. This must be taken as savings are required. The Department has engaged in change but the public should know about it. That is the purpose of my raising this matter.

It was public servants who brought this matter to my attention, but not only when I was canvassing 12 months ago. They highlighted bad practices in Departments and local authorities. Fair play to them because, by and large, most public and civil servants are quite decent, honest people. I would be interested to hear the Minister's comments in this regard.

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