Bertie Ahern (Dublin Central, Fianna Fail)

I will not argue with Deputy Howlin on this because there is a difference between trying to make something safe and writing a great deal into regulations. While no one wants to see accidents on building sites, farms, in butchers' shops or meat factories where they have traditionally happened, we do not need to insist that every small company must have a health and safety clerk to comply with it. That was not the original idea.

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