Mr. Niall Mulligan:

It is always a challenge anywhere, irrespective of where one works. I have worked in the charity sector for a long time and particularly over the last five to ten years, the challenge is out there, without doubt. The McVerry Trust, if one looks across the broad range of staff, quite a youngish cohort of individuals come to us maybe directly as graduates, etc. They would tend to stay two or three years and then move on for whatever reason. It is a challenge but we are used to that challenge.

On the crisis, yes, absolutely it has had quite a significant impact. We have lost some staff. Also, when we have tried to recruit for some key positions - in particular, our finance team was pretty decimated 18 months ago - it has been a challenge. We have got there. We have two vacancies on our finance team and we will soon appoint a director of finance.