Linda Nelson Murray (Fine Gael)
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I thank the witnesses for coming in. Similar to my colleague, Senator Curley, I do not think anyone around this table would disagree about the importance of the work secretaries and caretakers do. I have nine and ten year old girls and if I was not able to dial that secretary's number and have a chat with her, I would be lost. It is so important. Just so that I understand it properly, are we saying that we got the pay more or less sorted for secretaries a couple of years ago but we are now looking for the pension side of it? For the caretakers, am I right in saying that they are on €13 an hour? Do caretakers not get the minimum wage of €13.50? Does this not apply to them? Will the auto-enrolment that will happen take into account caretakers and secretaries?