Mr. Martin Collins:

First of all, I have to be quite candid. I feel somewhat uneasy with the way the question is being framed and what is being insinuated, as if collaboration and co-ordination between different NGOs is maybe not such a good thing. Maybe the Senator would have us operate in silos. There is co-operation and collaboration between different NGOs and between NGOs and other organisations that are not NGOs, such as IHREC. For example, when we were developing our submission in Pavee Point, we had an internal consultation process with our staff and some, obviously, were more qualified than others from a legal perspective. However, we felt that we did need additional advice. It would be remiss of us not to go and get some further advice from the legal experts. We did, with FLAC and IHREC, to be quite candid, and just for the Senator's information, FLAC does have two units. One is a Roma legal advice unit and the other is a Traveller legal advice unit, which are really essential in offering advice to Travellers and those in the Roma community who are going through the legal process. It would have been remiss of us if we had not availed of that expertise, and that is an ongoing way of operating.