Mr. Paul Jackman:

Yes, the contractor I referenced earlier had two courses with two different ETBs due to start in the summer and they have been stalled, and the two courses were fully booked. There are people coming from the live register but the traineeship is open to both those who are on the live register and those who are not. Our industry is engaging with people and trying to attract them into the industry and we offer them a six-month course. They did part-time work as well so there is a form of income. There was a duality to it and people were getting work experience while doing the traineeship. It was a nice model. Some ETBs have shrunk it down to just giving the licence because they saw a demand for that. Cavan and Monaghan ETB has achieved huge figures and found a lot of people who are in employment want the extra layer of qualification of having the licence so they were doing the course part-time and that gave them access to working at night or at weekends for additional income.