Mr. Patrick Murphy:

Outside of what we are talking about here, I wish Cormac all the best and hope that he gets the treatment. I am sad to hear what he said at the start of the meeting. I wish Cormac well.

To answer some of the questions without trying to put somebody into a light that might see them being visited, we had a scenario that has been mentioned. It is called the landing obligation where you are duty bound to land the species of fish that is caught, regardless of whether you have authorisation. One night, in the middle of the night, fishermen who had caught fish they were not targeting asked me what to do. I said that under the landing obligation, they had to land the catch yet they were still brought into a court case for being in breach of another law. To me, that is double jeopardy, which needs to be addressed. Why were these fishermen punished for following the law, and when it was looked at that they try to find another law that would criminalise them? This my example and this matter needs to be addressed.