Malcolm Byrne (Wicklow-Wexford, Fianna Fail)
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I accept that, but Mr. Ó Coigligh will get my point. I think this is important. I totally accept that the Arts Council was saying that everything was grand. However, given that we had just seen a major mess-up in the Arts Council, which impacted directly on artists, did somebody from the arts section of the Department not decide that it wanted to go in and interrogate to make sure this mess would not happen again? When the mess happened in June 2023, what the witnesses are telling me is that the Arts Council said that part of its solution was this new system and that all would be fine, and, essentially, the Department accepted that as being the case.