Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 26 June 2025

Committee on Defence and National Security

General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed)

2:00 am

Mr. Joe Noonan:

I will answer the second question first because I do not agree, candidly. I have been at the European Court in Luxembourg and seen how the structure works in the formal sense and I do not see that happening.

In regard to the relationship between the assurances given in the declarations and the pressure, I am also indirectly aware of the pressures. I have seen them in a semi-detached way and those pressures are unrelenting and never sleep. They are ruthless and they are 24-7. Those of us in the privileged position of seeking to preserve and maybe develop and present some constructive suggestions as to how this country might maintain its rather unusual perspective on these matters have, if we are lucky, busy lives and are doing other things. We are here on our own dime. Against that, we have the Lockheed Martins and big corporations that, speaking as a lawyer, are bound by law to chase profit. They have no empathy, no compassion and do not feel pain Those are simply statements of fact. This is the contest we are facing, and if we are talking about the interrelationship between the pressures and the assurances, the assurances are always under pressure.