Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 26 June 2025

Committee on Defence and National Security

General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed)

2:00 am

Mr. Joe Noonan:

Clearly not, but we need to look a bit wider. Going back to the point about under what circumstances a country should send its troops to another country, that has to be very restricted. If it is the case that the international community, through the UN, has currently got itself into a logjam about taking that decision, then so be it. Maybe we should just recognise that as the reality of the world we now live in and not cast around or have it put in our way that this is an alternative because we are exchanging one set of masters, arguably, for another. If we are talking about dealing with people like, as the Deputy described, the EU with regard to its conduct, such as facilitating sending bullets - 335 of which went into a car being driven with a six-year-old, Hind Rajab, inside, who was killed along with her family members - which bullets were supplied from Czechia, and you will see pictures online of President von der Leyen receiving a bunch of flowers from the Czech arms industry lobby group, we have to not go for the easy solution because there is not one. This committee has within it the ability, skills and blend of experience to go deeper into this issue and that is what we need to do.