Mr. Sean Martin:

The Senator is dead right; it is a challenge. Obviously the Government's policy is digital first but it cannot be digital only. That is what we have been saying, as Ms Byrne has said. We can be that state on the door. We can be that offline service for all Government services. There is a cohort of people who do not use computers, a cohort of people who cannot use computers, and a cohort of people who cannot access computers. There is a cohort of people who have computers but do not want to use them because they want to have a face-to-face service. We can deliver in spades for the Government. We have been saying this for quite a while. We need someone in the Government to say "stop" and let us look at what can be done, and there is a lot. As we have already said, there is a lot that can be done and the post office network can deliver for the State. It can be the front door for all Government services. If that does not happen, that front door will close and post offices will close one by one, and very quickly next year if the funding does not materialise.