Mr. Bernard O'Connor:

On Fiskars, the existing trade mark and the new GI, as the Deputy knows from the regulation, the GI must have a specification. The specification is what it is that makes it special, what the link is and a whole series of issues that would be put down. There is glass production in Waterford outside of Fiskars. It is limited but it is there. It is probably sufficient to make an application for registration of the GI. Then the GI would have to have this specification. We believe it would be in Fiskars' interest to get involved in the process of defining what the specification is. Let us say that in a worst-case scenario it did not and those producers who were not part of Fiskars went ahead and sought to register the GI, there is an opposition process and that process is designed to create compromise between the applicant and the opponent. There are many points at which there can be co-operation between the two so we do not, as Mr. Glanzer said, come to a conflict. We have reached out to Fiskars and it has not said "No". It has not said "Yes" either, so we have not had really substantive conversations, just like we have not had substantive conversations with the Department, which we were looking for as well.