Rónán Mullen (Independent)
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That is a bit harsh. Going back to the Minister, I have given him an example of something that is not demonstrable in fact but nonetheless is used as a part of the political agenda of Athena SWAN. I pointed out to the Minister that in Britain there can be other ways of complying. Athena SWAN should not be the only gateway. I also pointed out to the Minister that in Britain there is-----