Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats)
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Do the witnesses mind giving us a note on that so we can see the chain of things as well as the numbers in recent years?

When the most recent licence was granted, the court cases that were ultimately dismissed were still live. I cannot get my head around the idea that there were live cases. It was not determined. We know that the people were not told the date of the court case and that is incredible. However, that was still live. The Department could not have presumed the outcome of that. Is it a question that there was only one abattoir? Was there another one at that stage and the Department wanted to avoid live exports, which also have animal welfare issues? Did it accept a lower standard? What was going on there?