Mr. Conor Walsh:

This was argued in the Panda Waste and Greenstar case that was taken ten or 12 years ago, and the court determined it was not a natural monopoly. It determined that the efficiencies within the side-by-side competition were equal to, if not better than, a monopoly situation or competitive tendering. That was argued before a judge, with experts from both sides, that is, from Dublin City Council and from the private companies, and the judge decided in favour of the private companies, purely on efficiency and competition grounds.