Paul Murphy (Dublin South West, RISE)
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It seems to me that the Construction Industry Federation is coming before the Joint Committee on Environment and Climate Action and saying it is all for circulatory but in terms of its engagements with the Government, I think the witness said the Construction Industry Federation has never lobbied for increased standards. When I asked about increased standards, the representatives immediately went to the danger of overregulation and increased costs, that it would prefer not to be forced to do this and that it would take care of it themselves. That was the argument. It seems that this ESG stuff the CIF engaged in, as are lots of corporate lobbyists, is about covering itself and saying not to worry, please do not regulate us and we will take care of it in order to avoid these costs increasing. Is that a fair summation of the CIF's position?