Ms Marion Jammet:

With respect to things that are simpler - the Senator said the small things - my colleague, Mr. Impoco, mentioned extended producer guarantees or product-as-a-service that is being done in the Netherlands. A good example is the airport in Amsterdam, which does not own the light. It is a product as a service. It is the same for elevators in the Netherlands. They are rented as a product or service for 40 years, which means the maintenance is given to someone else. Mitsubishi will be responsible for maintaining the elevator for 40 years. This kind of alternative model keeps value in the chain.

On the methodology, yes the Department of housing is also involved with us on this.