Mr. Michael Sheahan:

To pick up on the point about "Prime Time", I echo what the Senator says. It was a fantastic piece of work by "Prime Time" and was public sector broadcasting at its best. I highly commend Conor Ryan, whom I do not know, and whoever else was involved in making the programme.

I reiterate what I said earlier. I grew up on a farm, have worked with animals all my life and have never seen anything like what we saw on the footage of the programme. Of people I have spoken to since, nobody else has ever seen something like that happen. I still find it hard to believe somebody would do what we saw on the programme. I can excuse that 20 years ago we still had sticks in the marts and people would occasionally use the stick too much, with a view to making animals move in a particular direction or whatever-----