Mr. Michael Sheahan:

I am just trying to clarify. For the avoidance of any doubt, nobody was more sickened and disgusted by what they saw on that programme than I was. I mentioned there were five complaints and, looking back, one was in 2018, one in 2019, one in 2020, two in 2021 and one in 2023. Those were not complaints that somebody was beating horses horrifically.