Ms Aideen Howard:

I want to be accurate about that. There was a change of DG in that time, as we all know. Dee finished up in June and Kevin came on board slightly later.

In my time there, it was very clear that processes were starting to change. The real implementation of those changes started to become extremely evident when Mr. Kevin Bakhurst was appointed, and new systems, new communication styles and new types of interactions started to be more visible. One of the things, which I think I mentioned before, has been the introduction of a written director general report to the board. Mr. O'Rourke has mentioned the supply of interim leadership team minutes to the board. I am using those as examples of the kind of information that is now taken as completely standard, as one would expect, which had not been the case before.