Mr. Joseph Musgrave:

First, on short term versus long term, I neither envy nor diminish the challenge the Government has to differentiate between different groups. That is why we said we would look at increasing the hours worked while on carer's allowance by three hours first to free up time in the system right now for carers. Our priority is linked to getting that waiting list of 5,500 down. If we could get between 3,000 and 4,000 carers working three more hours per week it would be a good short-term win.