Róisín Shortall (Dublin North West, Social Democrats)
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-----obviously fallen short in recent years. This needs attention. The Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform was critical of the HSE recently in relation to the growth in the numbers of management and administration staff. It was said there was growth of 8.8% in this category of staff last year. The understanding with the changeover to Sláintecare, with the advent of the RHAs and so on, was that the organisation would be leaner. Why is this not happening?