Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees
Tuesday, 21 May 2024
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills
Regulation of the English Language Sector: Discussion (Resumed).
Mr. Keith Moynes:
I will take the first question, which is a really good one and one that we have grappled with. In an ideal world, there would not be rules that create such an inflexible environment. The reason they were introduced was essentially as a compliance mechanism. What was happening when that flexibility was not provided for was that you would go to the school looking for the students and be told they came in the evening. It was essentially ducking and diving for that sort of agenda of visa factory access to the labour market. The rules are there to enable an inspector to arrive at the door and be told the people are actually there.
As the sector matures and a new regulatory environment is introduced, there will be much greater confidence in the quality of the sector and that people are genuinely here to study. With that in place, there will be greater assurance as regards providing greater flexibility because there will not be the same concern. If there is confidence in the operators and confidence that the teachers have the right qualifications and that people are here to study rather than primarily to work, as they are entitled to do for a certain number of hours, there will be greater assurance on the part of the State. That will enable it to say there are different models it would be comfortable with. I do not think we would be comfortable now because we do not have that confidence. However, the Deputy is right to say that is somewhere we would ultimately like to get to, if that makes sense.