Brian Leddin (Limerick City, Green Party)
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May I jump in on that point, briefly? The targets are very important to get the system moving in the right direction. We should push targets as best we can but week in, week out we deal with the politics of implementation. It is really difficult. We all agree. Every member, from all parties and none, in this committee agrees what needs to be done but when we walk outside that door we do not get the same alignment. A critical conversation to be having is the politics of implementation and delivery.

I will not bring Dr. Kelleher back in. I know she might want to respond. If we have time, I will bring Dr. Kelleher back to respond. I just wanted to make that point. I call Ms Devitt.