Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 14 May 2024

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence

Foreign Affairs Council, UN Matters and Individually Tailored Partnership Programme with NATO: Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs

Photo of Micheál MartinMicheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Yes. They are extremely anxious. We underestimate the degree to which these countries see this as existential. When one meets the foreign ministers of these countries, it is a completely different narrative and expression to what one would see from ourselves or others. They are very worried that were Ukraine to fall, they would be next. We can already see threatening behaviour. Politicians in Estonia have been told they face conviction for desecration of Russian monuments, for example. There is increased threatening behaviour and it tends to intimidate.