Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats)
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There is a double movement of people with BusConnects, so the NTA counts those. That is fine. Of course, if you put more buses on in different places, more people will use them. I understand that. That does not mean that the service necessarily meets people's needs. There are different needs. If you look at cost per kilometre, which is in the briefing document, it is €6.28 per kilometre as opposed to €5.80. It costs more. The NTA said that is because there are increased weekend services, which there are, and there are increased night-time services. There are also a lot of empty buses and out-of-service buses. Are they counted in the kilometres? Are they counted as in-service buses?