Mr. Donal O'Shea:

Fair enough. The culture of almost paranoia I see through PPNs involves many committees. I am on too many of them. We do not need them. The point I am trying to share is that collaboration will always be welcome but there is an obsession with creating committees for the sake of committees, and deflection and evasion as opposed to results and outcome. As Senators Cassells and Black said, whether it is the input of the town councils or the PPNs, we all respect the opportunity for inputs and we are all essentially in it for the same concept, but whether it is town councils or PPNs, there has to be a sense of collaboration. We have to identify through those collaborative processes what the priorities are and then doing them. Nike has global recognition of that logo and "Just Do It". While maybe it is symbolic, I would suggest when each county hall buys into this philosophy, whether it is for a bin or an artifact on a counter, they could have WD40, because policy not being fluid is the contributing factor to recurring themes here. The Seanad needs to lead on this.

We will do what we can in PPNs. As Senators said, I have spent significant time, beyond my remit, with the PPN. It is primarily because of having been in the media and hearing back from people about the consequences to individuals. That is what this is ultimately about. We get too bogged down with referencing communities, whether the geographical or the entity, but ultimately everything goes back to the citizen. We have not grasped that understanding adequately.