Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 11 April 2024

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement

Legacy Issues: Discussion

Mr. Raymond McCord:

Last year when Peter Kyle MP was shadow secretary he was really good and took a hands-on approach. When we were in Westminster last September in regard to the Bill, a promise was given to me by Peter Kyle. We were in the Public Gallery and Mr. Kyle was in the Chamber with Hilary Benn MP. Mr. Benn told Mr. Kyle that he would be meeting me soon. It was another promise from another politician that was not kept. I am glad that this has been brought up because we discussed it on our way here. With the Labour Party, one is saying it is going to scrap the legislation and one is saying it will repeal it. What is to repeal? It is just tinkering.

At the hearing with the Labour Party, I made a very simple request, that it make it part of its election manifesto and then we would believe it. There must be no more false promises. We have had them for 27 years. Some other victims, such as those of Ballymurphy and Bloody Sunday, have had them for 50 years.

Given young Raymond's case and the cases of other victims I am associated with, the party should put it into its manifesto. If it does not go into its manifesto, how can we trust it. If the party is not prepared to put it in – I raised this last night with a couple of victims – the Irish voters in England should be told not to vote for Labour. The party should be pushed into it. Tony Blair was Prime Minister when collusion was proven. I am referring to the first case of acceptance that the state colluded with UVF terrorists, who were agents who murdered my son. Why did Tony Blair not call for an inquiry then? If part of the state, the security department, the Special Branch, colluded in young Raymond's murder and if it has been proven in other cases that the unit was involved, why did Tony Blair not call for an independent inquiry at the time? The last Chief Constable to meet me was Hugh Orde. I think it was the day after the O'Loan report was issued. No Chief Constable will meet me. I got word yesterday that Jon Boutcher is going to meet me next month, but all the previous Chief Constables refused. Secretaries of State refused to meet me, yet they will meet other victims' families. I welcome that they are meeting them. I do not feel bad that Secretaries of State are meeting them rather than us. I am glad they are doing so but it goes back to the point that Chief Constables will not meet me. No British Prime Minister would meet me or any member of my family in 27 years. What does this tell you about the case?