Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 10 April 2024

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine

Bord Bia: Chairperson Designate

Mr. Larry Murrin:

I probably have not got to the page in the hundredweights of paper that have been delivered, yet that reveals the intimate secrets of whether remote audits were good or not, but I can give the Deputy a little insight into the concept. In my sector, we had many remote audits from our customer base right across the world. We have been back to the boots on the ground piece for quite some time now and, to be honest, that is a good thing. I know it absorbs resources. Certainly in our case in Dawn Farms, it absorbs significant resources of expert people, and that might not be available to an SME in a particular sector. For us to continue our journey of import replacement or export, accreditation and the need to be able to see that first hand and demonstrate it has been seen and audited first hand is a critical aspect of that journey. I am sorry to use the word “journey” again. Every customer in the world went remote for a period of time, just as Bord Bia did. The real essence of it is to see, touch, verify and be able to demonstrate to the consumers that it is real and deep, no matter what size the organisation you are auditing is, whether it is a three-man operation or a 203-man operation.