Mr. Jonathan Hill:

First of all, there was no secret payment. The payment was agreed between senior people within the association and they went through due process so to do. Mr. Barrett also said very clearly to the joint committee on the day, "The relevant executive came to me with a proposal outlining there were exceptional circumstances in this situation relating to Mr. Hill. There were truly exceptional circumstances in terms of ... inability to take holidays during 2022." That was his position, that was the association's position, and that was how the decision was taken.