Erin McGreehan (Fianna Fail)
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It is soul-destroying, as I am sure the witnesses will agree. Hopefully, they did not think I was suggesting that Safeguarding Ireland was the HSE or was established by the HSE. The HSE and HIQA are potentially breaking the law here, and we are all sitting with it. I find that very depressing and concerning given that we have legislation, although we need more legislation and I am one of the greatest advocates for it. The witnesses have been working in this area for a lot longer than I have. We talk about training. HIQA is the body that we would hope is trained. The HSE is the body that we would hope has trained staff who are our paid servants. How do we all reconcile this? We are all on the same side here. It is damning.