Ms Karin Dubsky:

Yes, there is. From working in the EIP, I realised the difference. When you ask farmers what they would do, they keep coming up with ideas because they are focused on the end result, which is increasing biodiversity and improving water quality. It is about changing it to a goal, rather than how to dance around all the prescriptions. Most farmers remember as kids when they caught sticklebacks in their streams. Some of them catch sea trout or whatever else, where I live. It is about bringing the focus onto the water and away from the prescriptive. Farmers, like fishermen, are used to doing their own thing. We are ramming them in the wrong direction at the moment by almost acting like secretaries.