Mr. Bernard Gloster:

First, to clarify, what I meant about "over and back" was not that children go over and back but that the issues cut across both services and, indeed, more widely. When children have many complex needs, there are often arguments between services as to which service is the most appropriate for the child. I have a very clear expectation that all the services of the State should work together to support the child and the family. Children rarely live in one particular item of need. That is a huge problem for us, and-----