Professor Roderick MacLeod:

It is interesting that only 7% of assisted dying takes place in hospitals in New Zealand. Some 80% takes place in homes, 3% in hospices and 10% in residential age care. It has moved out of hospital but that is probably because hospital doctors do not particularly want to be involved in it.

I wanted to make a point earlier on about the nature of suffering. When we are talking about palliative care education, medical students get taught virtually nothing about suffering. Everybody assumes that they know what suffering is. If one looks at the evidence, as Professor White would have us do, there is clear evidence that suffering is rarely constant. It waxes and wanes and so-----