Professor Desmond O'Neill:

Oregon has changed its parameters.

We do not want to get into a kind of Punch and Judy argument over this. It is clear that anywhere that has had this service for more than ten years has changed the parameters. As has been said before, housing and finance then became key issues in those places. These are the very things, in a liberal, progressive society, that we are trying to improve. Things have changed in Oregon. I am happy to provide a paper to the committee detailing the changes Oregon has made in opening out the criteria.