Mr. Jim Gavin:

First, I compliment the councillors who took part in the assembly. There were 12 of them. It was not an assembly of councillors but a citizens' assembly. Mr. O'Leary will go into the process of how the assembly members were selected. However, it was important to have the councillors. They are the soldiers on the ground and understand the local issues. They were very balanced in the discussions. At no time did I feel they wanted to directly influence matters one way or the other. They just shared their own experience.

The question of the plebiscite went to a ballot. You can see in the report-----