Mr. Patrick Reilly:

It is a good question. In Pavee Point we been lobbying for ethnic data for years. The best example is the census. It has your nationality, your ethnicity, your age and all of those things. We believe the training needs to be across all health administrators. It is not a case that one department would have it. There is also a good piece of work to it where you collect the information, analyse it and store it. The best example I can give is this. You will ask, "What is your name and what is your ethnicity?" You say, "I am going to ask you a few questions we ask of everybody." The Deputy can see what I have just done. You are saying that you ask this of everybody. I might think this person is asking me if I am a Traveller and ask myself why are they asking me if I am a Traveller. You have done your job. You have asked the question. It is up to me. I might look like a Traveller, talk like a Traveller or walk like a Traveller. I might be a Traveller woman with the earrings, and you know she is a Traveller from the area. However, you have done your job and asked the question.

Sometimes the fear is that collecting this data could make us show that we are not doing our jobs. It is really not about that. It is about capturing who is accessing and who is not accessing the services, and it helps tailor the service. It informs them. I spoke about "Mind Your Nuck", the young pavees website. We developed that and a lot of work went into it. We asked ourselves how we would capture if young Travellers and Traveller parents were accessing this. We worked with the website designer and added in Google Analytics. I am far from an expert, but I checked it before I came here. It shows that in the past 12 months almost 1,000 people have accessed the website. It shows what resources they are accessing. It informs us that young Travellers are checking out a particular resource.