Dr. Deirdre Lillis:

It is a success story, to be fair. The expenditure on higher education research and development, R&D, which, typically, is the funding into the universities, increased by 8% since 2018. There is a challenge in that our expenditure is fixed under the national development plan, NDP, but we are also looking for alternative sources. We have done well, for example, from the shared island fund, building collaborative research links there. We have a new programme, Innovate for Ireland, which is tapping into enterprise funding for research. We have done well on European schemes as well-----