Mr. Lloyd Riley:

It is nice to be given the floor with some time remaining on the clock, which has not always been the case. I would like to pick up on the point about logic, which was a point I did not expect to hear so often, especially in contributions that seem to be setting out such an illogical position. Where is the logic in raising these claims about vulnerable people? I also challenge the point made by Senator Mullen about elderly and disabled people. Some people in those groups might be vulnerable but others in those groups would find that generalisation incredibly patronising. Why are we advocating the protection of those people with safeguards when we turn a blind eye to the fact that people are already exercising this choice? They are travelling to other countries to do this. We do not seem to be stopping them at Dublin Airport and preventing them from going. People are taking matters into their own hands. I know people have discharged themselves from hospices to go and die in their gardens without any safeguards, regulation or oversight. Where is the concern for potentially vulnerable people there? Those are extremely illogical positions to be putting forward and we need to scrutinise them. I am more than happy to put Senator Mullen in touch with hospices in Australia and New Zealand that are providing assisted dying services as part of a range of end-of-life care options to support dying people in their communities.