Mr. Niall McCormack:

Yes. This year we have two people from outside the European Union. That seems to be the way the horticulture industry has to go. The members probably all remember how in 2020 there was the so-called Help 2 Harvest scheme. The horticulture sector in conjunction with the Departments of Agriculture, Food and the Marine and Social Protection tried to get Irish people to pick fruit.

It just was not a runner. It was tried in the UK. There was a big thing about helping to get the fruit in but it just did not work. We are now very reliant on labour from outside of the European Union because-----