Cormac Devlin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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A note on that would be helpful because that is an ongoing cost and these are very large figures.

I will turn to the risk management report from the HSE annual report of 2022, specifically page 111, which deals with the digital environment and cyber failure. In the context of the hack of May 2021, Mr. Mulvany and others have engaged previously with me about IT capability within the HSE for software and hardware alike. As I recall, there were quite a number of devices across the organisation that were still not up to scratch. Where are we at present in terms of safeguarding devices, information and, indeed, staff?