Marc Ó Cathasaigh (Waterford, Green Party)
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To try to translate that into layman's terms, Mr. Gloster is saying that different languages are being spoken and that the HSE is attempting to translate into the language it would be more comfortable in. If the Comptroller and Auditor General and the PBO are telling me they find it difficult to get a handle on the spending, that means it is not readily understandable to the lay person. One of the issues with that and with the narrative around overruns is that it occludes the fact that we have very good health outcomes for people who get access to the services. It changes and alters the narrative when we discuss the health system in Ireland when we are not communicating in two languages that are mutually compatible and when bodies such as ourselves do not have adequate insight into the spending.